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Luke with Dr. Lisa Miller, the author of several important works, including “Checks and Balances, Veto Exceptionalism, and Constitutional Folk Wisdom: Class and Race Power in American Politics,” “Amending Constitutional Myths,” and “Up From Federalism.” Lisa is currently working on a book about constitutional myths and folk wisdom.

In the interview, Lisa covers several topics, including why constitutional veto points should be viewed through the lens of political power, the current discourse around “checks and balances” and “constitutional guardrails,” the stories we tell ourselves and share with others about the Constitution, how federalism impacts public policy and impedes mass movements, and what people inside and outside the academy are saying about the Constitution.